[triangle-zpug] UML + AXG -- Re: Plone Jam 3/20/08

Josh Johnson josh_johnson at unc.edu
Tue Mar 18 20:31:29 UTC 2008


I don't know if I'd go so far as to say that model driven development is 
falling out of favor (least in my case), it's more like model-driven 
_code generation_ is turning out to be a real pipe dream.

To put it differently: I still think I'm in love with UML, I just don't 
want to have code babies with it.

I think it's also important to mention that "model driven" can mean a 
lot of different things. A zope3 interface can "say" all the same things 
a UML model does, just in code instead of pictures, so it's still 
"modeling"  (as far as I'm concerned anyway). :)

JJ

Rob Lineberger wrote:
> I have the same dream as you, but with something that generates a
> working Plone 3 product.  
>
> I can (and in fact, recently did) present a tutorial on 2.5-style UML >>
> AGX >> Plone.  I'd be happy to do the same thing at a Plone Jam now that
> the kinks have been worked out, but with a "real" UML model.  But the
> Plone community seems pretty set on Zope3 tech, which Josh is much more
> versed in.
>
> In other words, I suspect that model driven development is falling out
> of favor, for good reasons according to people who know what they are
> doing.  Instead of refining that process, it might make more sense to
> explore the new way.
>
> Or perhaps a hybrid, or a face off... ?
>
> Rob
>
>
> On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 13:42 -0500, Mark R. Biggers wrote:
>   
>> My dream of a super Plone Jam or 2:
>>
>> Rob.L, Mike.R and Josh.J take turns, reviewing either an "example" UML model
>> or one of their own, and explain some "tips 'n tricks" about what they have
>> discovered about UML-modeling => ArchGenXML => Plone products.  Plone 2
>> examples would be fine; Plone 3 would be great, too.
>>
>> I did some work recently fixing the AGX example model, to try it out with
>> 1.6.x AXG and Plone3.  That might help; however we are all sure to learn
>> something from the UML/AGX super-group ;)
>>
>> Here's hoping flattery will get those Jam-demos,
>> ----mark
>>
>> Chris Calloway writes:
>>  > On 3/18/2008 9:35 AM, Mike Revoir wrote:
>>  > > Plone Jammers,
>>  > > I apologize for the late notice, but I will be unable to attend and host
>>  > > this week's Plone Jam. Is anyone able to host the Jam in my place?
>>
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