[triangle-zpug] UML + AXG -- Re: Plone Jam 3/20/08
josh_johnson at unc.edu
Tue Mar 18 20:31:29 UTC 2008
I don't know if I'd go so far as to say that model driven development is
falling out of favor (least in my case), it's more like model-driven
_code generation_ is turning out to be a real pipe dream.
To put it differently: I still think I'm in love with UML, I just don't
want to have code babies with it.
I think it's also important to mention that "model driven" can mean a
lot of different things. A zope3 interface can "say" all the same things
a UML model does, just in code instead of pictures, so it's still
"modeling" (as far as I'm concerned anyway). :)
Rob Lineberger wrote:
> I have the same dream as you, but with something that generates a
> working Plone 3 product.
> I can (and in fact, recently did) present a tutorial on 2.5-style UML >>
> AGX >> Plone. I'd be happy to do the same thing at a Plone Jam now that
> the kinks have been worked out, but with a "real" UML model. But the
> Plone community seems pretty set on Zope3 tech, which Josh is much more
> versed in.
> In other words, I suspect that model driven development is falling out
> of favor, for good reasons according to people who know what they are
> doing. Instead of refining that process, it might make more sense to
> explore the new way.
> Or perhaps a hybrid, or a face off... ?
> On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 13:42 -0500, Mark R. Biggers wrote:
>> My dream of a super Plone Jam or 2:
>> Rob.L, Mike.R and Josh.J take turns, reviewing either an "example" UML model
>> or one of their own, and explain some "tips 'n tricks" about what they have
>> discovered about UML-modeling => ArchGenXML => Plone products. Plone 2
>> examples would be fine; Plone 3 would be great, too.
>> I did some work recently fixing the AGX example model, to try it out with
>> 1.6.x AXG and Plone3. That might help; however we are all sure to learn
>> something from the UML/AGX super-group ;)
>> Here's hoping flattery will get those Jam-demos,
>> Chris Calloway writes:
>> > On 3/18/2008 9:35 AM, Mike Revoir wrote:
>> > > Plone Jammers,
>> > > I apologize for the late notice, but I will be unable to attend and host
>> > > this week's Plone Jam. Is anyone able to host the Jam in my place?
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