[triangle-zpug] python hosting plan from $8.25/mo...

Dave Powell jdavep at gmail.com
Mon Apr 2 15:44:46 UTC 2007


now, that might justify the price... ;o)

i might be able to consolidate...hrm...

thanks geoff...
...dave p

On 4/2/07, Geoff Davis <geoff at geoffdavis.net> wrote:
>
> Joel Burton pointed me to Server4You (http://server4you.net), and I
> have had pretty good luck with them.  You get your own box all to
> yourself starting from $50/month.  You have root access and complete
> control -- it's a physical box, not a virtual machine -- so you have
> to play sysadmin, but you get to do whatever you want.  I think Kapil
> Thangavelu also uses them.
>
> On Apr 2, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Chris Calloway wrote:
>
> > Dave Powell wrote:
> >> hey guys...
> >>
> >> ...just had a friend pass along this info about Python hosting...
> >>
> >> http://www.fatcow.com
> >>
> >> ...thought i'd share...anybody know of any PZP hosting at this price
> >> point?...i need a host for some personal stuff...and the price is
> >> right...(i'd prefer plone/zope, but, beggars can't be
> >> choosers ;o) ....
> >
> > That's python as in straight up mod_python or python CGI on virtual
> > hosting. Very 1997. It won't run zope or plone very easily if at all.
> > Pretty much any reseller can give you the same deal. There are
> > literally
> > thousands of $8/month "deals." mod_python and python CGI have been
> > pretty standard offerings on any host for a decade. And pretty much
> > everybody who gives you that deal is a reseller. Your site will run on
> > the same server as 100 others and your site will be periodically
> > unavailable several times a day as one of those sites sucks down
> > all the
> > resources, even when "jailed" or "quota'd" or "quarantined."
> >
> > Repeat after me: "You get what you pay for. Seven times more so when
> > hosting."
> >
> > OK, now repeat that at least fifty more times to yourself. I know it
> > won't do any good. But you can go out and prove it to yourself over a
> > number of years otherwise. The good thing about plone is, it helps you
> > find this out sooner rather than later, in case you can't remember:
> >
> > You get what you pay for.
> >
> > The more you ignore this, the more pain you will suffer. That said,
> > even
> > though this has been answered in our archives more than once, it may
> > bear repeating:
> >
> > Free Plone sites: http://www.objectis.org/ http://
> > myplone.objectis.org/
> >
> > Has been there since Plone 1. Run by Pilot Systems and Blue Dynamics
> > (who hosted two Plon Conferences). Can't use your own domain name yet
> > because they don't want to support it. Can only use the products they
> > have installed. So your site customizations will be TTW, not a site
> > product. But they have a great number of installed products. In
> > fact, if
> > they don't have a product installed, you might question if you'd
> > want to
> > use it. If there is a product you want they don't have installed, they
> > will install it if they can determine if it will be trouble-free.
> >
> > You have to justify why you need a free Plone host to Objectis. "I
> > want
> > to learn Plone" is not a justification. You can do that on your
> > laptop.
> > They want reasons like "I'd like to host a Plone site I have already
> > developed which will help coordinate volunteers for my bike
> > marathon for
> > charity." They filter out bozo's and wannabe's so their resources
> > can go
> > to people who deserve it.
> >
> > Abbreviated list of plone hosting: http://plone.net/hosting-providers
> >
> > Some obvious omissions from that list (as plone.net is apparently a
> > bad
> > joke):
> >
> > http://sixfeetup.com (my personal favorite and Camp5 attendee)
> >
> > http://www.jazkarta.com/services/hosting (Camp5 attendee; reseller)
> >
> > http://zettai.net/ (PloneCon and ZPUGDC sponsor; hosts OxFam America)
> >
> > http://www.ingenihosting.com/ (freakishly hardened; good plone
> > community
> > citizen)
> >
> > http://www.siteground.com/plone-hosting.htm
> >
> > http://www.highspeedrails.com/
> >
> > http://www.webfaction.com/ (zope, plone, trac, subversion, django,
> > turbogears - pick and choose; some people love it, some people hate
> > it,
> > webfaction is the new pink)
> >
> > http://www.amaze-solutions.com/hosting-new (hosts plone.org)
> >
> > http://reflab.it/services/hosting (Amaze reseller; co-host of PloneCon
> > 2007 in Napoli)
> >
> > http://interlix.com/services/zope-plone-hosting
> >
> > Don't shun hosts outside the U.S.. There are good reasons to host your
> > site outside of the U.S. these days.
> >
> > This may help:
> >
> > http://plone.org/documentation/faq/where-can-i-host-my-plone-site
> >
> > http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/plone-system-resources-for-a-
> > small-site
> >
> > In looking at those, I would say, you will find serious limitations
> > and
> > pain whenever hosting an application server (whether zope or a java
> > server or whatever) on virtual hosting. It is almost always worth
> > it to
> > get your own dedicated server. Ask Mark and Rob how they are liking
> > 1&1.
> >
> > Also:
> >
> > http://wiki.zope.org/zope2/HostingProviders
> >
> > --
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Chris Calloway
> > http://www.seacoos.org
> > office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
> > mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599
> >
> >
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