[triangle-zpug] editor discussion continued...

Joseph Method tristil at gmail.com
Thu Jun 1 01:59:04 CEST 2006


Stani's Python Editor (http://www.stani.be/python/spe/blog/) is free,
and probably has the closest feature list to Wing. I've been burned in
the past by mishandling of indentation levels and just use gvim.

On 5/31/06, Dave Powell <jdavep at gmail.com> wrote:
> wing seems great...but as alton brown likes to say...i only have one
> unitasker in my virtual kitchen... ;o)
>
> i was looking at eclipse becasue it also supports a cold fusion plugin and
> that coffee stuff too...(not that i use it very often)...
>
> ...my first impression when i tried cfeclipse was that the setup was really
> better for Java with setting up projects, etc...but that there were some
> handy little things that made life easier...
>
> ...i guess i'll just have to try it out, and in the meantime, install the
> wing freebie on my new laptop too...(i'll keep boa constructor and komodo on
> the list in case i get frustrated...
>
> thanks for the input guys...
> ...dave p
>
>
> On 5/31/06, Chris Calloway <cbc at unc.edu> wrote:
> > Dave Powell wrote:
> > > ...has anybody tried PyDev for eclipse?...it looks pretty full featured,
> > > and is free...anybody know if it allows for debugging?...
> >
> > PyDev includes a "High-speed Debugger (on par with the best debuggers
> > available)":
> >
> > http://pydev.sourceforge.net/debug.html
> >
> > Debugger
> > # Python and Jython support
> > # Watch
> > # Breakpoints
> > # Step in/out/over
> > # Multiple threads
> > # Variable display
> > # File hyperlinks in the console output (you can click on stack traces)
> >
> > It also include PyLint (disabled by default).
> >
> > Some links:
> >
> > http://wiki.python.org/moin/EclipsePythonIntegration
> >
> http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2006/05/a_glance_at_pydev.html
> >
> http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2005/09/pydev_eclipse_plugin.html
> >
> > At Plone Conference 2005 I saw the following talk, but the presentation
> > files have gone missing (this irritates the crap out of me). Contact the
> > presenter, I guess:
> >
> > Eclipse: The What, Why, and How by Rocky Burt
> >
> > Rocky is looking for other people who use Eclipse and PyDev with Plone:
> > rocky the at sign serverzen the dot mark com.
> >
> > At Plone Conference 2004 I saw the following talk, but that presentation
> > file is missing on plone.org. Contact the presenters, I guess. Riaan
> > Booysen is the author of BoaConstructor. Joel you know. Gogo (Georg
> > Bernhard) is... too cool for school; and gogo the at sign bluedynamics
> > the dot mark com.:
> >
> > Developing and Debugging Zope and Plone with BoaConstructor
> > Riaan Booysen and Joel Burton and Gogo from Bluedynamics
> >
> > "Boa Constructor is a powerful open source development environment for
> > building Python applications, including tools for managing Zope sites
> > and adding and modifying Zope/Plone content, such as PageTemplates or
> > PythonScripts, right within the IDE. It also includes a flexible
> > debugger and object introspection system. In this tutorial, we'll cover
> > how to use Boa Constructor to help build and manage your web site, and
> > will cover how to setup your Zope/Plone site for debugging with Boa. In
> > addition, we'll take a quick look at two other popular debuggers,
> > WingIDE, and Komodo, and compare their features."
> >
> > Outline:
> > - Overview of BC, where it is, where it's going
> > - Developing sites using Boa
> > - Debugging using Boa Constructor
> > - Short compare to WingIDE
> > - Short compare to Komodo
> > - General tips of debugging Zope/Plone
> > - Questions
> >
> > There was a demo of Wing, Boa, and Komodo IDEs at the Feb 2005 TriZPUG
> > meeting by Tom Bryan at Ben's place at Duke. There are no files or notes
> > from that on TriZPUG.org. Contact Tom. He's the testmeister
> extraordinaire.
> >
> > > ...and if there are any other editors with things like code completion
> > > that folks are using, i'd love to hear more...
> >
> > I use jEdit a lot. Not because it's great for Python. But because I've
> > been using it for a long time and it has more language modes than Emacs.
> > For Python, I get Jython and syntax highlighting. That is, the whole
> > editor is scriptable in Jython. I'm not big on code completion because I
> > can type faster than I can pick off a list and it gets in the way of
> > typing. I see no reason for other people to use jEdit, however. It's
> > just something I'm comfortable with.
> >
> > Eclipse blows. That's just me. Great idea. Overwhelming execution. I'll
> > probably have to end up using it one day when it puts everything else
> > out of business.
> >
> > I liked Wing when we used it in Plone Boot Camp.
> >
> > --
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Chris Calloway
> > http://www.seacoos.org
> > office: 17-6 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
> > mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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