Its a pity we're not supposed to talk like this. This is the most animated I've seen the list since I joinned, and I was starting to get a sense of an Australian Python community... Back to silence and "we're meeting the week" messages... Take care, Liam -- Liam Routt Ph: (03) 8344-1330 Research Programmer caligari@cs.mu.oz.au Computer Science, Melbourne University (or liam@routt.net)