[Python-au] Life, the Universe, the reason for being and all that stuff....
Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:35:18 +1000
Guys and Gals,
This is going to be a long e-mail message, so sit back, relax and let the =
Force be with you, etc, etc. It is mainly addressed to people in Melbourne=
I would like to raise something which I am guessing is close to most of yo=
u, viz. MONEY.
As you all know, IT Land is kind of slow right now but things are starting=
to pick up slowly. Now, we can all sit back, twiddle our thumbs and hope =
that corporate IT will
discover Python and ZOPE.
Well, guys and gals, it's like dating, you can sit in your living-room and=
hope that the man/woman of your dreams will come along. Well, I've got ne=
ws for you. Unless you
are very, very lucky (or very good-looking), it won't happen.
You have to go out and make yourself available and let the world know that=
you are available - and you do that by knocking on doors and doing the ol=
d face-to-face (still the
best way of selling anything - just in case of you are wondering - yes, I =
used to be in sales, so I learnt a few things about what works and what do=
Now, what I am interested in establishing is an informal group of develope=
rs, initially limited to Python and ZOPE developers (it will be expanded l=
ater to cover other
development languages) who each can possibly call on, when jobs need to be=
Now, no doubt some of you will be in full employment, some in partial empl=
oyment and some will be doing consulting directly with clients. No matter =
what, everyone can
use some dosh (unless you have a wealthy uncle/aunt, relative - fill in yo=
ur own details here, etc.)
No, I am not interested in becoming a contracting agency - there are enoug=
h of those around already. Basically, when I go to a client, I want to kno=
w that I can call on say,
X no. of Python/ZOPE developers for a particular job.
Similarly, one of you might know someone who has a particular requirement.=
Now, I know that the nature of user groups is that they only focus on wha=
t they are interested
in, in this case Python.
Well, in the real world, Python is just another tool. Most clients couldn'=
t care less if you use tool X or Y, as long as the job gets done and the c=
ode is reasonably
maintainable - that is just a fact of life - and you can rant and rave all=
you want - it won't change a thing.
Developers, by their nature are usually solitary beings. Well, taking a le=
sson from our insect brethren, you will always be more successful working =
as a group, than working
alone (OK - some things, you want to do on your own) - especially in IT La=
Basically, everyone will deal with the client directly, and no, I don't wa=
nt a cut of your earnings. So what do I get out of it? Well, I can say tha=
t we are a group of
Python/ZOPE developers on tap (makes a nice motto: "Python and ZOPE develo=
pers on tap"), and that we can tackle the larger jobs.
What we need to establish the individual levels of developer expertise (I =
am hardly going to recommend someone, who knows next to nothing about soft=
ware development to
any potential clients.)
If any of you are interested, we can discuss this in a user meeting. The Z=
OPE group usually seems to get about ten to twelve per meeting - judging f=
rom their web site
photos - so I guess that we might only get about three or four Pythonites.=
I realize that meetings in the past have been, shall, we say, somewhat sub=
dued, and that they may not be any interest in attending another meeting i=
n the city.
I first wish to discuss this with the Python group and if there is enough =
interest, get the ZOPE user group involved. You might consider this to be =
a stab in the dark and that
no one in this mailing list could give a farthing about the topic I have r=
aised - well, so be it -at least I am going to give it a shot. It may not =
work, but unless I try, I will never
Any replies to this message should be made to the mailing list as a whole =
- you can bounce it of my OzEmail address directly,(just in case you are w=
ondering - I use my
OzEmail address for mailing lists, etc. - messages will automatically be r=
e-directed to my real e-mail address. It keeps the spam merchants in check=
.) But replying to the
mailing list, is definitely the preferred way to go.
Well, that's it for now.
Any comments, suggestions,=85?